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The Nature of God
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“These are written, that ye may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God” (John 20:31).

James Parkinson

There are conflicting views of the na-ture of God: Arian, Trinitarian, and Unitarian.

The common Arian view of God is that He is the Creator and that he created the mighty archangel, called the Logos (or Michael, meaning, “Who is Like God”). Together, these two greatest beings in the universe created the heavens and the earth, angels and animals and man.

Trinitarian views of God may span a spectrum, from an Arian-like view of separate and distinct beings to a Modalist view (first God was the Father, and then God appeared as the Son [Jesus] on earth, and then as the Holy Spirit after He was resurrected). The common Trinitarian dogma is that there are three divine persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit; and together they constitute one God, or “Godhead.” How this can be so, is called a mystery.

Unitarian views are that Jesus Christ had no pre-human existence. The Socinian form of Unitarianism says that the resurrected Jesus is still flesh, though in some way he has been glorified and is immortal. But which view does the Bible teach?

The Apostle John in his first epistle sets down only three intellectual requirements concerning Jesus: “Who is the liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ [Messiah, Anointed]?” “Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.” And, “Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God abideth in him, and he in God” (1 John 2:22, 4:2, 15). The Bible imposes no further requirements concerning our understanding of the nature of Jesus than these, although religious men often impose dogmas that go beyond the Bible.

A man with a good conscience toward God will be wary of the sentiment that says to him, Welcome to our church; check your brains at the door. Rather, he should be attracted if he hears, “Come now, and let us reason together, saith Jehovah [or, the L
ORD]” (Isaiah 1:18 ASV).

Questions

Trinitarian views raise some evident questions:

• Matthew 1:18 says, “Mary ... was found with child of the Holy Spirit.” But if the Holy Spirit were a personality, then Jesus would have been the Son of the Holy Spirit and not of God the Father, would he not?

• If the earliest manuscripts of John 1:18 subordinate “an only begotten God” (RVIC; NAS) to “God,” does that not also distinguish the two in John 1:1?

• It is sometimes argued that, because Jesus is the Son of God, that proves he is God. Yet, if being the son of David does not make him David, how would being the son of God make him God? (Revelation 22:16).

Recent Books

There are some recent books on this subject, which may be of interest.
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One author tabulates from the Old and New Testaments that:
— God is declared to be the Father: 56 times,
— Jesus is declared the Son of God: 77 times,
— Jesus is distinguished from God: 326 times,
— Jesus says that he is God: 0 times.

Lonzo Pribble, Theology Simplified, God, His Son, and His Spirit: Why the Doctrine of the Trinity is Neither Reasonable nor Biblical. All Trinitarian Arguments Refuted, (2001). About fifty arguments for the Trinitarian position are addressed. The possibility of a change of nature is not considered. Good scripture index.

• Jason David BeDuhn, Truth in Translation, Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament, Lanham, MD: University Press of America, 2003. Includes chapters on

translations of Philippians 2:5-11, Colossians 1:15-20, Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:8, John 8:58, John 1:1. Seems to rank accuracy, in descending order, for seven tests: NWT, NAB, NASB, NRSV, NIV, LB, AB, TEV (of which Living Bible and Amplified Bible are paraphrases, more than translations).

• Patrick Navas, Divine Truth or Human Tradition?, Bloomington, IN: AuthorHouse, 2011, spends 534 pages examining in detail thirty or more scriptures claimed by Trinitarians, including John 1:1, 8:58, 10:30; Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 20:28; Philippians 2:6, Colossians 2:9; 2 Peter 1:1, and in the Old Testament, Genesis 1:1,26; Isaiah 9:6, 43:10-13, 48:12-17.

Arian Scriptures


In the classical work on the history of dogma are listed many of the popular Arian scriptures, “The passages so frequently cited later on by the Arians [listed below] ... [were] thus [probably] already used by Arius himself” (Adolph Harnack, History of Dogma, Volume IV, page 20, Dover).

Deuteronomy 6:4 — Hear, O Israel: Jehovah {1} is our God, Jehovah is one.

Deuteronomy 32:39 — See now that I, even I, am he, And there are no gods with me.

Proverbs 8:22 — Jehovah {2} acquired me as the beginning of his way, The first of his works of old.

Psalms 45:8 (Luther, 45:7 English) — Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated wickedness: Therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Matthew 12:28 — But if I by the Spirit of God cast out demons, then is the kingdom of God come upon you.

Mark 13:32 — But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

Matthew 26:41 — Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Matthew 28:18 — And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth.

Luke 2:52 — And Jesus advanced in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.

Luke 18:19 — And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? None is good, save one, even God.

John 11:34 — Where have ye laid him? They say unto him, Lord, come and see.

John 14:28 — Ye heard how I said to you, I go away, and I come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, because I go unto the Father: for the Father is greater than I.

John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom thou didst send, even Jesus Christ.

Acts 2:36 — Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly, that God hath made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified.

1 Corinthians 1:24 — unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

1 Corinthians 15:28 — And when all things have been subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him, that God may be all in all.

Colossians 1:15 — [the Son] who is an image of the invisible God, a firstborn of all creation;

Philippians 2:6 and following — [Christ Jesus] who, existing {3} in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, {4} being made in the likeness of men.

Hebrews 1:4 — [a Son] having become by so much mightier than the angels, as he hath inherited a more excellent name than they.

Hebrews 3:2 — [Jesus] who was faithful to him that appointed {5} him, as also was Moses in all his {6} house.

John 12:27 — Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour? But for this cause came I unto this hour.

John 13:21 — When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in the spirit, and testified, and said, Truly, Truly, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.

Matthew 26:39 — And he went forward a little, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass away from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Matthew 27:46 — And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

After his resurrection Jesus said, “All authority hath been given unto me...” So before he was given such power he could not have had the nature of God.

The Plural God


In Genesis 1, the word for God is Elohim, which is plural; “And God
{7} [plural] said [singular], Let us [plural] make man in our [plural] image, after our [plural] likeness.” However, it is singular in both Psalm 22:1 (“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”) and Matthew 27:46. Hence, taking the Logos (subsequently Jesus) away from the plural “God” leaves God singular. So the Holy Spirit can hardly be a third personality in God.

The Hindu concept of Trimurthi (Trinity) has God composed of Creator, Preserver, and Destroyer — all three equal and equally necessary. In the Arian concept, the Destroyer (Abaddon and Apollyon in Revelation 9:11) is not only unequal and unnecessary, he will be bound for a thousand years and later destroyed. (By contrast, the ancient Chinese had a word, Shang-Ti, for the supreme God, but when the missionaries came they had to invent a character for Trinity.)


Immanuel:
Joseph was told, “Thou shalt call his name Jesus,” meaning “Jehovah is salvation.” Then “they shall call his name Immanuel; which is, being interpreted, God with us” (Matthew 1:21, 23 ASV), or “... God is with us” (RVIC, NEB, CJB, Lamsa). (Theologians commonly assert only the former and then insist it means Jesus is God.) Christ has already been called “Jesus” for two thousand years, but people will know him as “Immanuel” — “God is with us” — only beginning in His thousand-year kingdom. After the thousand years “God himself shall be with them, and be their God” (Revelation 21:3).

The Trinitarian formula of 1 John 5:7-8 was apparently translated from Latin into Greek (manuscript #61) by the rival Complutensian Polyglot editors (Alcala University, Spain) to discredit Erasmus’ first printed Greek New Testament. The words, “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one, And there are three that bear witness in earth,” are rejected by all but the most ardent “King James only” people today; they appear in only nine late Greek manuscripts (in seven different forms), as against five hundred that omit the words. This forgery further discredits the case for the Trinity doctrine.

The Socinian view (e.g., our Christadelphian friends), that Jesus had no pre-human existence, and that since his resurrection he remains a man, albeit somehow glorified, raises a different set of questions:

How can we understand, “Before Abraham was born, I am” (John 8:58
ASV)? (To translate it, “I am he” (i.e., the Messiah, the Christ, the Anointed) is not driven by grammar nor by context; it seems to be driven only by theology.)

Hebrews 1:1-11 and Colossians 1:12-18 would also need to be explained by any view that says Jesus had no prehuman existence in the spirit realm and that he does not have the divine nature — the nature of God Himself — since his resurrection. Also, 1 Corinthians 15 strongly distinguishes a celestial body from a terrestrial (earthly) body.


There are two apparently strong scriptures for the Socinian view of Jesus since his resurrection. God “will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he hath ordained” (Acts 17:31). However, the Greek word is ane¯r, meaning a male (as distinct from female), whereas the Greek word anthro¯pos would have been the word to distinguish a man from a spirit being (as in Matthew 9:8).

And 1 Timothy 2:4-6, which may be literally translated, “God our Saviour; who would have all men to be saved, and come to a full knowledge of truth. For there is one God, one mediator also between God and men, himself having been a man, Christ Jesus the one having given himself a ransom for all” (
RVIC). Here the bone of contention is the tense of the supplied verb, “having been,” which is more appropriately taken from the tense of the Greek verb in the next clause (“having given”) rather than from the closest preceding explicit verb three clauses earlier (“come” {8}). The supplied tense here suggests how Jesus Christ is the ideal mediator: Jesus has been human, but thereafter he has the nature of God evermore — he has been on both sides of the fence!

“Ye were bought with a price.” “The bread which I will give is my flesh, for the life of the world.” (1 Corinthians 6:20, John 6:51
RV). For Christ to take back his flesh would be to take back the redemption price, and all people would be abandoned to the Adamic death penalty. The man Christ Jesus gave himself a ransom for all; the resurrected Jesus is in the nature of God.

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(1) Or, “Jehovah our God, Jehovah is one:” or, “Jehovah is our God, Jehovah alone:” or possibly, “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:”

(2) Or, “possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.” Or, “bought me,” etc. Septuagint, Aramaic, Targum, read “created me,” etc.

 (3) Or, “in the form of a god”

(4) Greek, “becoming in the likeness”16 17 July / August 2012

(5) Greek, “made”

(6) That is, “God’s house” (see Numbers 12:7).

(7) Note: “God [Elohim, plural] said [singular] Let us [plural] ...” In Hebrew, the singular verb with a plural subject may be used to express that the plural individuals work in full harmony.

(8) However, the nearest antecedents, “to be saved” and “come,” in the Greek are in the Aorist tense (a general past tense); so these also do not imply a present tense for “a man.”